Travelling long haul, collecting points, and sales year-round. And as ChatGPT says, “Geoff concludes by discussing his new backpack purchase.” Of course he does.
Travelling long haul, collecting points, and sales year-round. And as ChatGPT says, “Geoff concludes by discussing his new backpack purchase.” Of course he does.
Geoff 0:08
And welcome back to another episode of toast and roast. I am your co host, Geoff, and as always, I'm here with our co host, Micah, our Georgie. Are
Georgie 0:20
you always here? You said you always go as always. But is that true? Like, how accurate is that
Geoff 0:27
statement? I think it's as accurate as the New Year that apparently happens once every 12 months.
Georgie 0:34
Yeah,
Geoff 0:37
yeah. Did you did you have anything particular over the New Year, did you do anything fun, or did you anything boring? That's the That's the ultimate question, right? Yes,
Georgie 0:49
so I do. I did what I normally did, which was stay at home, pretty much. But I was not feeling well, and that was fun.
Geoff 1:05
I think one of my friends said that they, as far as they know, this is this, they caught COVID For the first time over the years. And I'm like, as far as you know, well, I guess, guess that's good, right? An achievement. Is that fun? I mean, it's so we're so over it. So everyone's like, yeah, okay, whatever.
Georgie 1:26
I did actually go to a local park where there's a hill, and I saw the 9pm fireworks. It was, it was okay. You
Geoff 1:35
know, it's as okay as they get. There are fireworks at 9pm Yeah,
Georgie 1:39
the Darling harbor ones, yeah, the ones that are not on the brick. Where did you not know this? No,
Geoff 1:46
like, I'm never here for New Year's. Oh, I've only been here for New Year's once. So you were not here this time? No, I wasn't here this time. Okay, did you do anything fun or boring for New Year specifically, um, if we're, if we're thinking over the like the ticking of the midnight, um, we roast in Perth for one. So we got to watch the live stream of Sydney's fireworks at night.
Georgie 2:21
Oh, sorry, that is hilarious, actually.
Geoff 2:23
And then then we just went to bed and not thinking about Perth time, like time zone. What do you usually do? Is that what
Georgie 2:31
you normally do?
Geoff 2:34
Well, it's been changing for about, like, maybe five to 10 years. So usually for the for the first five of those 10 years, is that I would go to my friend's house and I just sleep over there for, like, Perth wise, this was before they got two kids, had only one and, like, maybe half of one and then a full one. What would you mean half of one? Yeah, when they're like, six months old, six months literally, like half of a kid. I mean, also when they did, I stay over when they anyways, so usually go to their house and takes over, and they're like, whoo, and then go back to sleep. But like, yeah, lately it's just been, like, 9pm Whoo, and then guys go to sleep. I think, I think the year before, my partner and I left on New Year's Eve, like, to come back to Sydney. Oh yeah, we flew on the 31st like,
Unknown Speaker 3:41
in Did you do the red eye?
Geoff 3:45
This time we did the red eye. I didn't know how we got there, but we were like, This is the only reason that we would catch the red eye now, is for cost savings. Yes, yes. You were not thinking about what day it was, yeah. So we, we got on a plane at January 1 at 10:55pm and landed January 2.
Speaker 1 4:08
Wait, 8am Wait, don't you me? Wait. I thought you meant on New Year's Eve. Oh,
Geoff 4:15
no, we caught the Red Eye last year on news. Last year on the red eye. I don't know, but it's just really weird. New Year's Day. You on the day now it's the red I use it. And then I realized I didn't put leave in for January 2. I'm like, I'm gonna arrive at like, 7:30am in the morning. So did you? I'm probably not gonna work. Oh no, I just put in leave before my man, like, my manager was already away for parental leave up until January 2. So it got approved January 2, 9am Oh, that's fine. I just gave them the heads up. And you know, it's all hunky dory. So
Georgie 4:52
like back when we had an office, like before, COVID and I went to Perth for. Conference, and I came back. I was like, I thought I was being really clever, and I came back on the red eye. But I feel like the red eye from Perth to Sydney is fucking brutal, because you got you, you always do the thing where you plan, like, I will sleep on the red eye. But because Perth to Sydney is only, like five hours, or like five and a half, or whatever it is, and like, you get disturbed with whatever meal service, or whatever the or whatever it is, like, you do not sleep the actual full even if you tried, yeah. And so, like, I got in at, like, yeah, 730 and then I went to the office to, like, I can't remember what I was gonna, no, I think I thought I was gonna go home, and then go to the office. Like, go home, shower, etc, and go to the office. Instead, I went to the office and picked up my laptop and went home. And then I think I might have just taken the day off as well, because it just couldn't be fucked. Yeah,
Geoff 5:50
it's really it's really weird, because for people who don't have context, Sydney and Perth are on the other side of the continent, and they're about daylight savings. We have daylight savings in Sydney. So right now, over Christmas period, they are three hours apart. Sydney's three hours ahead of Perth. So even like even if you sleep with the red eye, you're not actually sleeping a full eight hours, even though you land eight hours later. So you get on the plane at 11, four hours, and then you get off the plane at eight, and then you're just like, wait, no, I didn't actually sleep four hours. I maybe slept like, let's say, optimistically, you slept the four hours, four and a half to get home. And then you're just like, oh, it's already 8am and you get on with your day, and then you just realize, Oh, my God, where did my energy go? Yeah,
Georgie 6:48
of course, of course. So I booked a flight recently, which does a similar thing, but it's, I'm just gonna tell you all where it at least I'm not telling you when I'm fucking going, um, it's, it's from New York City to London.
Geoff 7:04
I think you were talking about going to back to the US, yeah,
Georgie 7:08
but at least no one will know when I'll be there, because I'm not gonna say it on the pot all that. Yeah,
Geoff 7:13
you should. You could already be there.
Georgie 7:17
Yeah, you never know in this moment that I'm saying, you'd have, you have no idea. I'm just saying that I booked a flight. I could be going tomorrow anyway. Wait, that's not gonna work first, okay. But wait, it could be tomorrow, because we also don't know
Geoff 7:36
when this Yeah, we could. We're not gonna release this for I don't know when we're gonna release Don
Georgie 7:42
all we know so far from this discussion is it's 2025 and yes, yes, yeah. So after thinking about it, I decided to book a red eye because the flight is seven hours and, like, 10 minutes, or something like that.
Geoff 7:59
And on the way back, or the way,
Georgie 8:02
like, New York City to London, like, just that,
Geoff 8:05
okay, right? That just
Georgie 8:08
and so, um, oh, now I can't even remember what time I'm departing. I think it was like, I think I picked 730 I know that sounds really fucking weird, but there was also one that was like, later, like about 10 o'clock or something. But the reason I picked 730 at night is because of that, like, weird interruption that you might get from, like, you know, the cabin crew like frolicking around with their cards and, like, yeah, so it's, it's still a little bit optimistic, because I think there's also a small time difference. So I think I land at like, 655 in the morning. So there's, like a skip, but it's, I don't know it's, I've picked that versus leaving at 10pm because if you leave at 10pm you got to be at the air because that's International, because you're going from us, okay, you have to be at the airport pretty early, and I'm like, I might just be fucking, like, mentally roasted, like, trying to be at the airport 8pm plus, I have this feeling that it'll be busier, whereas if, like, I am departing at 730 or whatever, then it's like, oh, that's, you know, you're already somewhat chill. You could, you could fall asleep if you wanted to, but then if you also, like, woke up also, this is assuming I've actually adjusted to local time. So yeah, this this strategy. I have this feeling that people from Australia have far more if you've traveled internationally, have far more experience with understanding, like long flights and shit, because we just have to fucking travel more than five hours to go anywhere.
Geoff 9:47
Yeah, yeah. If you want to exit Australia, it's just very far, yeah. Like I was telling,
Georgie 9:54
like, I was telling her, like, how I want to get back right, like, back home, yeah. And she's like. 24 hours. What the fuck I'm like, yeah, sometimes it's 36 but, like, you know, ideally I would do the, you know, 21 to 24 hours. But it's just like, bro, yeah. Like, we know what the 12 hour flight is like,
Geoff 10:17
yeah, yeah. The only thing I find weird about, like, leaving at 11pm is that the amount of time I have to wait through the whole day? It's kind of like, Oh, I could do something. But if I don't make it back in time to have that meal, or the weird like the interval meal, then I can't, like, then I won't do that, then I feel like, hey, anything is super specific. Yeah. So, and then we were already packed in the morning. So just like, Okay, so now got the packing out of the way, and now what are we gonna do?
Georgie 10:55
Yeah? I guess that depends on whether you can, like, either late check out or whatever, but like, without fucking boxing myself or my plans. My situation means that leaving late is totally fine,
Geoff 11:07
yeah, well, theoretically, I could I looked up the flight time and path and how many points to get to Europe is and I still have some points to collect. But, like, I went points and cash, like, well, you have to actually pay cash. So even if you pay all points, I looked at Cathay Pacific and Qantas. I think, yeah. Qantas has a layover. Has a layover in Singapore, okay, but it's like 25 hour later in Singapore. I'm like, that might work, but Cathay or one to two hour or even through the maximum three hour layover in Hong Kong, in a lounge. We're talking business class here. So that might I mean, like,
Georgie 12:08
I also have to make the Changi Airport decision of, like, do I want to just, you know, whiz through two hour layover, or don't want to spend seven hours in the thing is spending like, half a day or a day in Changi is kind of okay, because you can be entertained by what's there. I just like, I looked at other options. I think it was like, if you want to go budget China Eastern, like, coming back from Europe, but it's like, you sit in Shanghai for like five hours, and I did that once for like, like, a couple hours, and I was bored out of my ass because you can't get out and there's nothing really there.
Geoff 12:47
Yes, yeah, um, wondering, can we leave the airport in Hong Kong? Probably not. But again, going on business class means in Singapore, I think you can. I mean, it's either Cafe Hong Kong or Qantas slash Singapore Airlines. Like, are we as Australia? I think you can leave I think you can leave Changi. I'm not entirely sure. I haven't, like done a layover in Singapore in a long time, but last was like 15 years ago. Yeah, it can change the rules, right? But I agree, like Singapore is like, you can quickly duck out, get the Michelin star, honey chicken rice, and get back in 24 hours, get some dairy in. But yeah. So the interesting thing about getting by paying points. And I know we've talked a lot about points on those.
Georgie 13:43
Wait, can I just also preface this with I actually paid for one of my flights with points because I realized I had enough. And that surprised me, because we kind of semi dist them.
Geoff 13:53
Yeah, yeah, we semi ditched them. But again, my credit card earns points, so we should, I should actually transfer all of our costs to the credit card. But anyways, like for anyone who doesn't have points or collects points, so I think they're a scam, like we do. If you get enough of them, you can buy a whole fight to like business class, and it does work out probably cheaper. Now, what I've watched on a YouTube video was whether or not you want to spend more points and less money on the fees and taxes, which you do have to pay in cash besides your ticket, or you spend less points and more on that, on that piece and taxes than you know services. So there are different, different airlines. Will, Will will give you different points to taxes ratio. Apparently, Cathay Pacific has. As the best point, like, if you have a lot of points, it'll it gives you the best value for the points and the taxes. But if you go for quantas or Singapore Airlines, they minimize the amount of points you use and bulk load taxes. So it just depends on what you want to do. But I have through my previous foray into credit card points collecting. I have got a lot of points. I can get all the way to, I think I was going to Heathrow. Yeah, it's going to London. Heathrow on points. I mean, I have to get more points, but it's marginal.
Georgie 15:45
It's marginal. But is that planning to go, oh no,
Geoff 15:49
I just looked at how much, how many points I have, enough to go a long way, is what you're saying I have, I have enough to go a long way, so that the planning kind of begin, I guess. But yeah, it's been a while since I went to Europe as well. Kid
Georgie 16:09
my I think it's only been, like a couple of years for me.
Geoff 16:15
Yeah, we're, we're actually quite lucky to just call that up. I just talked, I just talked to my electrician, yeah, and he was like, Ah, he has a friend, or a friend anyways, he has a friend who, who goes to Japan four times a year,
Georgie 16:37
four times at that point. Yeah, you just make, like, go for six months and then come back and then, yeah, I mean, like,
Geoff 16:46
well, I guess, like, for the income, maybe because and they go for weekends.
Georgie 16:54
Wait, literally. Are you serious? Like, four times, like, three days,
Geoff 17:00
just, just maybe for four days. When you first
Georgie 17:02
saw that, I was kind of like, Oh, cool. And then I'm like, what?
Geoff 17:09
Yeah, that's exactly what I was like, Oh yeah, cool. Four times a year, once a quarter, excellent. Take a week. Take two
Georgie 17:16
weeks. Do they go on, like, long weekend? Type,
Geoff 17:20
yeah, I don't know.
Georgie 17:24
So we get like, Australia, invasion day
Geoff 17:29
or political weekend. Australia, I mean, I guess Sydney, let's go New South Wales.
Georgie 17:37
Actually, wait, Australia Day is not always a long weekend. Just realized,
Geoff 17:41
haha, you need to log in. Is this always a problem?
Georgie 17:45
Well, so there's that. So there's the Australia Day, because we get a day in lieu, if it ends on the weekend, if it lands on the weekend. Sorry, that's true. And then
Geoff 17:53
the next one is in New South Wales, 2025, and
Georgie 17:59
then I don't know if we do King's birthday. So Easter, King's birthday, let's go with chat GPT. What's that one in October? Do we get a Labor Day? Where is that?
Geoff 18:14
And then here we go.
Georgie 18:16
Here we go. I was correct. What the hell was Labor Day?
Geoff 18:20
Summary of long weekends is Australia Day, Labor Day, Easter, Anzac Day, King's birthday. Wait,
Georgie 18:29
wait, hold on. Can you Oh, wait, I retaliate. What's the word? I,
Geoff 18:36
I rebu, I re Yeah, refute, refute.
Georgie 18:40
Yes, yeah, the Labor Day seems wrong
Geoff 18:42
to me. I mean, it's capital Queensland, South Australia. Also, it's not new south in some states, but not New South Wales. Oh, then we shouldn't count that, yeah. But
Georgie 18:53
no, no, it says Labor Day, March 9. I don't think it is. Wait anyway, I'm angry at this. It's wrong. I need to find out what's correct.
Geoff 19:05
When is Labor Day?
Georgie 19:08
My official calendar, let me see, it's Labor Day wa on the third of
Geoff 19:16
March, 10, 10th of March. There
Georgie 19:19
is no Labor Day, New South Wales. It's Adelaide Cup, 10th of March. Canberra day,
Geoff 19:24
yeah, exactly, King's birthday. So see it's right, it doesn't it says some states for nine. Talk
Georgie 19:31
about number three. It says March 9.
Geoff 19:36
Not wrong. So, I mean, okay,
Georgie 19:41
so we got East, Australia, day,
Geoff 19:47
correct your dates.
Georgie 19:50
Fuck you. Chat, GPT, this is
Geoff 19:52
why you don't trust chat, video,
Georgie 19:59
okay. Yeah,
Geoff 20:01
all right, so let's say, I mean, they six long weekends,
Georgie 20:08
really a long weekend,
Geoff 20:11
yeah, it is this
Georgie 20:13
time, however, oh. Thing to note about Anzac Day is, if it falls on a weekend, there is no day in lewd, yeah,
Geoff 20:21
okay, they were they removed that recently, didn't they?
Georgie 20:24
Like, Oh, was it actually recent? I didn't know that. Okay, okay, yeah,
Geoff 20:29
I feel like, I feel like everyone was up in arms because they really liked the extra hot. Like, of course, everybody likes it. Who doesn't? But, I mean, like, 10 years ago, but, like, man, these people that are complaining about public holidays? Who needs them? Who needs public holidays?
Georgie 20:47
Wait, so hang on. Who are the people who complain about them? Other people?
Geoff 20:51
Everyone complains about them. Oh, everyone. Everyone complains when they lose a public holiday or like they don't have enough, regardless
Georgie 20:59
of like, static, like,
Geoff 21:02
no, no, no. You literally everyone except for me, I'm like, Oh, back in the day, I was like, Oh, we don't have a public holiday. Yes, I was rejoicing. I don't know that's so odd. I didn't care for the public holidays. The thing I feel, what did they give us? They give us expensive days. Everyone's on holiday at the same time. Yeah? They give us, you know, extra days and day leave. Yeah, I know. Just give everyone annual leave, extra annual leave, instead of making these public holidays. Well, then they have to figure out their own system, because they can work and not work at the same time.
Georgie 21:46
They can work basically they can not work whenever they want. That's
Geoff 21:49
exactly they can not they can make a long weekend for themselves. So six long weekends in total. I mean, this is, this is the, this is the thing that the guy prefaced. He was like, their friend doesn't do very much in the way of hobbies. So this is their hobby is to go to Japan, no judgment. So they spend it all on Japan. And to be fair, I would love a long weekend in Japan. What stops you? What the money, right? Because I mean off season, we're talking like $1,200 return for a ticket, maybe more. It
Georgie 22:40
feels like a long way to go for a long weekend. Like, if you went to like, okay, anywhere,
Geoff 22:45
you need a day on either end. You need a day on either end of long weekend to fly.
Georgie 22:52
Maybe you take the red eye. Yeah. So I feel like, if you're going domestically, in was gonna say in Australia, but really, in anywhere. If you're in the states and you're listening at this, because your shit is close as fuck yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah, do a weekend. I would say, like, for us, there's just, oh yeah. And if you're in fucking Europe, not, don't even, I'm not even talking to you, because you could just fucking go to a whole house other country. Mean, maybe you could do New Zealand over a weekend?
Geoff 23:23
Yes, yes, but you'd
Georgie 23:24
be kind of, maybe one city or whatever, maybe something like Fiji. I'd actually no way. How far away is Fiji now? Fiji is still, I don't know. Yeah, like, we can't go very far. And it's like, I wouldn't, I would not really go to Indonesia for a weekend. Like, my ass would not be bothered. Yeah, that's seven hours to 2100
Geoff 23:48
kilometers northeast of Australia. The flight is around three and a half hours to four.
Georgie 23:52
So I think like, Sydney to Perth is, like the long like, so like five and a half hour any longer than that. And I wouldn't really bother doing that over a weekend?
Geoff 24:03
Yeah, in any case. I mean, speaking of Europe, I've always thought that living there would be good so that you can kind of take the weekends in different countries. But I heard that not very many people do that, even though it's, like, really convenient, which it makes sense, I think it's because it's
Georgie 24:23
novel for us. So, like, I have a friend who actually relocated to the UK and has been doing that, but it's because she can, you know, like, yeah, I don't know. I feel like growing up in Australia, like everything's so far away, that when you do go to somewhere like Europe, or whatever
Geoff 24:41
it's that is true, it'd be more novel for us. Even Americans who might go to Europe are like, yeah, do this from state
Georgie 24:52
to all their states. I think we talked about this as well as it's I saw this video where a guy from I think you. Somewhere in the UK, moved to America and said, I see why Americans don't go outside of Americas, because they become tourists in their own like country, because they go to different states, because literally, every state is almost like a different country.
Geoff 25:13
Yeah, yeah. But ever since leaving Japan, we've gotten a lot more reels about Japan, and a lot more YouTube videos about Japan and and I think, Oh, yeah. I look, I'm now like, Reddit is, is also feeding me stuff from Japan. And I've come across all these, all these, like, ah, things I never knew I wanted, or something like that. And it's always the the Americans who are, who are marveling at, like, Oh, right. One of them was the tipping culture, right? They, they, they were like, Ah, so in Japan, people give you really good service and and don't ask for a tip. And I was like, Whoa, that's not like, that's rightly so you're, you're bit like, culture shock from that. Like, yeah, you would go there and try tip them, and then they don't even wait for a round for any tip. Which is, which is, like it was a nice, refreshing take for them. Is considered, because they bring their bags up and then they would, they would put the bags in your room and not wait around for a tip. And that was, like, pretty novel for them, yeah, but yeah, it is. It is, like the tipping culture is wild. I think we said this a lot different
Georgie 26:40
in every state so freaking
Geoff 26:45
away. Oh, that's right, they would have different tipping culture, like you tip a 10% or whatever, in one state, and then, oh,
Georgie 26:56
hang on, is it different person? No, I'm thinking about tax. Sorry. Oh, no,
Geoff 27:00
tax. Oh, right. Another thing they mentioned taxes added to the price itself. They don't have to do mental math.
Georgie 27:07
Am I here as well? Like, figure it out? I remember having a friend coming here from Canada, and she was like, Oh, it's so good. I don't have to, like, add tax on top of the prices here. And I'm just like, of course not. And this was back in like, like, about 10 years ago, where the goods and services tax had already been in effect for like, 10 years already. So she's I, she's saying, wow. And I'm just like, yep. Also, I knew nothing about Canada at the time. Oh,
Geoff 27:34
man, can it be good to go to at some stage? I think we went when I was really young. I've never been to Montreal, on Vancouver, Vancouver. I distinctly remember getting like a like a maple leaf shaped something, but all I'm looking forward to is maple syrup and poutine from Canada, real poutine. So yeah, anything Did you do any? Did you do anything for Christmas? No, I just had my parents. Yep, you had your parents. I mean, my parents, my brother,
Georgie 28:21
my family, yeah, is it
Geoff 28:24
because everyone has shut down periods?
Georgie 28:27
Yeah, actually, like, usually my my parents really busy, because they work in like, high demand, like, my mom's in retail. Dad is Postal Service, and I remember this one time like and they were they were free on the day. My brother's partner wasn't, because she's a nurse. And I guess I don't know people still get sick on that on Christmas Day. But I do remember this one time my mom had to start work at 12am on the 26th damn Boxing Day. And I think it was a day when the shops actually opened at 12am unboxing. Oh, wait. I mean, no, I think, yeah, I think the shops were opening at 12am on Boxing Day, the 26th of December. But we had a job like an hour earlier on Christmas night. And I just remember, like, the roads at night, because we just dropped her off, were like, completely, like dead, like, empty lanes, except for this one lane, which was the lane to turn left into, like, everyone was driving to the mall. I don't know if they do anymore. I don't know if it just got too crazy. I don't know. I mean, obviously, okay, if you're in the States, tell us if this happens in your state, because I'd imagine you kind of do have these crazy still.
Geoff 29:51
It's, it's been kind of, um, it's been kind of waning in popularity. I think is. It's because every, every logo we go, what we have, we have Chris we have Christmas sales, and then Boxing Day sales, and then Cyber Monday sales, and then cyber week sales. And then it like black like, then on Black Friday is November, the services from from Black Friday all the way to January 1. I mean Boxing Day sales and start sales
Georgie 30:26
now. Also no exactly recording this, but you can just,
Geoff 30:32
yeah, exactly so. So I think because they realized that was a bit crazy to do just one day of sales, everyone's doing multi day sales, and you just like, well, just catch the next wave.
Georgie 30:43
Yeah, exactly. I think it happens about every six weeks. Someone like, figured out, on average, that there's a sale for some reason. And I remember, yeah, it was quite interesting, because last year over the Christmas period, I think I got an email from one store that was like, we will have a sale one day only, like on Boxing Day, no, and it was only 15% off as well. And I thought they'd be shitting like, I thought that was just like, generate hype, and they'd be like, saying, Do you ever get this sale extended? And you're like, Fuck yeah. So they didn't do that. They literally, and one day of only 15% I didn't buy anything. But I thought that was kind of interesting, and I wonder if it was because they were a smaller company, but still, like, I feel like companies are almost competing with each other, that they're like, we're still on sale. Buy from us. Yeah, fucking vacuum cleaner or whatever.
Geoff 31:42
Infinite sales. Infinite sales. Do
Georgie 31:45
you know any like stores that almost seem to have this infinite sales? It's almost like a, not a business model, but a marketing tactic, like,
Geoff 31:58
well, I know that. I know, like, there's a million, like rugs, a million rugs, a million is constantly closing down. They're constantly having a closing down sale, but, but it's illegal. I think to have a closing down sale without closing down really, I think that's, I think that's a illegal some cases,
Georgie 32:25
yeah, but it's like
Geoff 32:27
some because it's misleading to the consumer, yeah, like,
Georgie 32:31
you think this is your last chance and all of that. But I think I've seen, like, a couple of online stores where it just kind of seems like the prices are always, like, slashed, and it's like, it seems like they're always on sale, but what it is is they're showing that you're saving when the real full price is just never the real full price. Like the full price is the sale price. Yeah, yeah. I've seen people, yeah.
Geoff 32:57
How is a house still closing down saying, I don't know consumer it's going to anyways, but yeah, I think, like the whole colesworth are calls and Woolworths are basically always on sale, really, you just
Georgie 33:17
know what happens with their products. I never really paid attention.
Geoff 33:20
Yeah, yeah. I mean, like they sail in cycles and yeah, just generally feels like they're always on, like, some things always go on sale consistently. You just have to catch the pattern.
Georgie 33:36
Do you know that thing where it's like, they say it's like, mark down, and then when you remove the yellow stickers, like the same fucking price, or,
Geoff 33:45
I think, yeah, it's a lot of shady stuff out there where they're like, Oh, well, when, when a sale is like two for one, it's never a good one. And if it's a sale that's only like 10 15% again, it's not, it's not a that's not a sale. Sale? No, we've decided that only, only 50 and above is like a real sale, if it's not 50 and above. But, yeah, it stops us for from buying bang, random stuff,
Georgie 34:26
like even sales. I don't even really care about how much percent off it is. I look at the actual price I'm paying, and I'm
Geoff 34:35
like, Am I cool? Yeah, you cool to pay that, yeah?
Georgie 34:38
Like, I bought some bed sheets. And the boxing there, like, bed sheets set so it comes with, like, the pillow cases as well. In like, you know, boxing, they're Black Friday. And I think one of them was like 40 bucks. And I'm like, I'm happy to pay that because, given that so many of them are like, $200 which is fucking insane. I'm like. Yeah,
Geoff 35:04
I just bought a new backpack. Time to go into it. Why look this current backpack is just, I mean, when I see a new backpack that solves all the problems of my current backpack, I just can't resist. Never settling with your backpack. You just never I think I'll settle for this one. I think I think this one has got it you haven't yet, yeah, because they, I mean, I saw a video because it's, it's by this well known tech channel, and I saw a video of them doing like the doing the work, walk around of the bag. And I was like, oh, and I, I mean, my bag currently is quite vertical,
Georgie 35:55
that I'm quite vertical, aren't all so
Geoff 35:57
it's not, it's not like a dump all, dump everything in the bag. It's not like a ruck sack. You can open it up. There's a big cavity you just chuck things in, right? Whereas the backpack is like, quite structured, vertical. And then you you have pockets on the inside that go all the way down, yeah. And then you have very, very little space on the left, on the front side to put anything in, yeah, and that's not my problem. But what I found was that, oh, we have pockets right at the bottom, and then I have to actually, like, dig right down past the jackets or whatever. And you just have to, like, rummage down into the pocket in the bottom of the bag, and then just pick it up. So basically, the pockets useless, right? Yeah, all right, yeah. So like, notice these little things. Oh, and then, when I, when I chuck my laptop into it, it did, the laptop just thunks to the to, like the floor.
Unknown Speaker 36:56
So there's no padding at the bottom. There's
Geoff 36:58
no padding. So these, these are, these are like things that I've noticed, but they weren't. They didn't bother me as much. But when I see a backpack, kind of like, resolve those issues that I was like, Oh, that they're kind of like living their like, life, you know? I guess that's the way it is, right? But if someone solves that's the way it is, then I'm on board with it. But yeah, so this is a this is the backpack. It's quite small. I think it's the same size, same literage, 20 liters. Yeah. And what's actually quite cool about it, that you don't really think about either, is that this, this side pocket, which is supposed to hold an umbrella or bottle, is usually quite low. It's quite it's supposed to it's usually a quarter, yeah, like a quarter of your backpack side. But this is halfway to two thirds, so you can actually put, like, your water bottle and and or umbrella, without worrying about it flopping about Yeah, kind of like my concern, yeah, and the zips go all the way down, fully open, not fully open, because a lot of a lot of bags actually fully open it, so that the clam shell, so that the shell, the clam shell, goes all the way to the table. Yeah, this is actually giving a hinge. So it's actually like a, what's it? A 30 degree hinge, 30 degree hinge opening so you can actually quickly access, put things in all in one go. And what's great about is that it also has it on the front so you can actually, yeah, okay, all
Georgie 38:51
right, so did you? Would you
Unknown Speaker 38:54
already order this?
Geoff 38:56
Yeah? Well, I watched the video, and they apparently had 20%
Georgie 38:59
off. Wait because, like, video in the code in the description, yeah,
Geoff 39:04
yeah. So they were, they were promoting their bag, and they were like, for limited time, we'll give you 20% off for the first batch of for however many get the bag. So I was like, okay, that's, that's, uh, how much is this? 20% really worth it. It covers the shipping. Okay, yeah, there's at least that. So you basically gave me free shipping, and I'm okay with that. All right, I'm okay with that,
Georgie 39:30
especially because shipping like costs so much like, yeah,
Geoff 39:35
so you can reasonably ships.
Georgie 39:37
Oh, wait, hang on. Should I read that ships in a while. I'm
Geoff 39:42
in the I'm, I'm getting it in the second Oh, I'm, I'm getting in the second wave, not this wave. Oh, and, man, my current backpack, the luggage, there's a strap for your luggage. Handle. So you can attach the bag onto luggage handle. It's like half the bag, or like a quarter of the bag is the strip. So it is incredibly tight, and you can't even, like, put it on the handle easily. So I was like, oh, man, they've solved this too. So when I see something that solves all my problems, like, I just can't not get the diet. So it's quite small. I think it'll be good. It better be good. Yeah. And, you know, it better be good. The ending to this episode, oh yeah. By the way, it has extra padding at the bottom so your bag can be set down without everything, like hitting the floor. Yeah, I can throw it around. I think they even have, like, a video of just like sliding the bag driving, like sliding the bag across the table, up right, and it doesn't topple so straight up. Yeah. Anyways, enough about my backpack, my I think since my backpack in three years, or something like that, Wow, dude, yeah, I changed my backpack more often. Nah, I can't say that.
Georgie 41:15
What are you gonna say underwear? Because then that
Geoff 41:17
would be a serious problem more often than my phone. How many? How many years you change your underwear? Should you change your underwear?
Georgie 41:31
I was thinking of just the general like, you wear a new pair every day.
Unknown Speaker 41:38
But I think there's
Georgie 41:39
a general recommendation to get new ones every
Geoff 41:42
bed sheets, right? Oh, wow, that's a lot of waste, yeah,
Georgie 41:47
but incredible. But there's conflicting information on the internet that says, if you wash your underpants in like, a warm, warm cycle and like, that'll get rid of the bacteria. So it's like, it's fine, like
Unknown Speaker 42:04
you don't actually need to replace
Georgie 42:05
them every, every year, maybe every couple years, or something, I don't know, just as if they're not ripped or, like, stained, even. And some, some have, like, professionals, medical professionals have said that even if your underpants are stained, as long as you wash them in hot or, like, warm to hot water. Like, yeah, and like, you know they're comfortable, they're actually still fine. I'm like, okay,
Geoff 42:30
yeah, see about two years for sheets. You have to buy new sheets, but it's if you use a sheet set every day of the year. Which,
Georgie 42:38
which you do, right? Because we all sleep,
Geoff 42:42
we you gonna say I was just thinking, if you don't change your like, if you change and to a new bed sheet every day. I don't know what. I don't think it makes sense.
Georgie 42:53
Generally, you have them, and then you wash them, and then, I don't know, unless you cycle between. But even then, like,
Geoff 43:01
I just, I just read this weirdly. Oh, okay, I thought it said 365, bed sheets.
Georgie 43:17
So how, yeah, how long are they supposed to the last.
Geoff 43:22
I don't think that's, I don't think it is a matter of lasting, but it's been, yeah, how are you sorry?
Georgie 43:25
How are you supposed to replace them hygienically? Because, like, another thing, is supposed to replace pillows after, yeah,
Geoff 43:35
how do you need to buy new pillows? Or at least, oh, we need to do mattress one, so about every one to two years. So basically, you have to change your entire bed every one to two years. Hey, face size. Material, latex, memory foam. Look five
Georgie 43:52
years. Okay?
Geoff 43:56
I mean, I don't even know what my current one is made of, like the koala thing, isn't it?
Georgie 44:01
My memory foam?
Geoff 44:04
Yeah, maybe I think it is. Anyway. So five years, every five years, yeah, you just change your whole bed in every every two to five years, and that's okay, just make it a rule, yeah, just buy 1000s of dollars of bad stuff anyways, yeah, this is now the real end of the episode, so you can follow us on nothing, yeah, we don't dabble In any social media, yeah, but you can also, you can just email us at toastast and roast@proton.me
Georgie 44:49
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Geoff 45:01
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